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Last Link (Zip) Connecting Puffy to Pac’s Assassination Passes Away

September 13th, 2012

This is via Chuck Philips exclusive; commemorating the anniversary of 2pac’s death, today September 13th.

R.I.P, as 50 says, enough of that shit. Raise a glass, hoist a flag and take a moment to reflect, on the passing of a true hip-hop dignitary: Eric “Von Zip” Martin.

Zip died August 27, 2012.

No disrespect to Chris Lighty, but everybody who’s anybody in rap knew Zip: Big, Pac, Puff, Jimmy Henchman, Bumpy, Barry Hankerson, Frank, Janice, Melvin, Jekyll, Wolf, Buck and Big L. Global Music Corporations too.

In Death, as in Life, Zip made his exit in style, an impeccable suit, an ornate casket, a horse-drawn carriage, leading a star-studded procession up and down the streets of Harlem to Benta’s Funeral Home.

With Lil Kim and Cameron among the celebrities gathered for the wake, many wondered whether Zip’s favorite “Nephew” would show: that Bad Boy CEO of many names: Sean John Combs, Puff, Puff Daddy, P-Diddy, Diddy, Iamdiddy, Swag, Chairman Of The Board, and (who has recently started referring to himself as) Ciroc Obama.

Back in the day, Puff and Zip were tight, logging long days at Bad Boy and longer nights at Daddy’s House. Although Diddy had not seen Zip in ages, he blew in to pay tribute to his “Uncle” – and said a few words in honor of the magnanimous OG who literally saved his life.

Not only was Zip the godfather of Biggie’s son, he was a Harlem music aficionado who owned a nightclub on Adam Clayton Powell Jr. Blvd.: Zip Code. While his contributions to Bad Boy are unclear, he co-executive produced records with Puff’s close friend, Czar Entertainment chief Jimmy Henchman and Blackground boss Barry Hankerson, including the soundtrack for “Exit Wounds,” a film that starred Steven Seagal and DMX.

Following in the footsteps of his mentor, Ellsworth “Bumpy” Johnson, Zip semi-ruled Harlem’s underworld on and off for decades. He knew every OG on the East Coast and practically every new kid on the block across the nation. Zip drove a bulletproof Mercedes, operated offices on both coasts, and moved effortlessly in and out of both entertainment and underworld circles.

In fact, it was Zip who introduced Puff to the Southside Crips, a formidable street gang based in Compton, CA, with whom Zip had operated a profitable pharmaceutical business for nearly a decade. A fortuitous introduction indeed.

The Crips came to the rescue when bad blood broke out between Bad Boy Entertainment and Death Row Records, where Suge Knight employed Compton Blood gang members as bodyguards. (Crips and Bloods have long been mortal enemies and warring factions.)

The Crips say Zip worked out a deal with Puff for the gang to guard Bad Boy whenever they traveled West. The shot-caller of the gang has intimated that the arrangement commenced in Anaheim following a 1995 Jodeci concert.

Bad Boy partied with the Crips in Vegas, the gang says, after Mike Tyson’s 1995 prizefight with Peter McNeeley. Members of the gang attended West Coast recording sessions and, according to the Crips, Zip brought Big into Compton that year to check out South Park.

An argument erupted in March 1996 backstage at the Soul Train Awards. Crip gang members drew guns to defend Big and Bad Boy against Pac and his Death Row Blood bodyguards. A fierce standoff ensued, but no shots were fired.

The Compton Police Department, LAPD, Las Vegas Police and FBI conducted an early morning raid in Compton in October 1996, locking up dozens of Crip and Blood gang members. According to the search warrant, the cops were trying to quell a gang war sparked by Pac’s murder. Some of the Crips arrested in that sweep, the cops alleged, had provided protection for Bad Boy.

According to “Murder Rap,” a book published last year by ex-LAPD Det. Greg Kading, a Crips shot-caller said Puff offered to pay the gang $1 million for the murders of Suge and Pac. Puff allegedly ordered the hit after dinner at Greenblatt’s Deli on Sunset Blvd, according to LAPD records.

The Crips shot Pac Sept. 7, 1996 in a drive-by about a block from the Las Vegas Strip following a Mike Tyson/Bruce Seldon championship bout. (He died 9/13/12.)

Six months later, Biggie was gunned down in an identical drive-by outside the Petersen Automotive Museum, about a block from the Los Angeles County Museum of Art.

Several witnesses inside the Petersen party told police they saw Southside’s shot-caller approach Puff and ask if he needed security, after which they saw him approach Lil Cease, and ask the same question. Witnesses then saw the shot-caller approach Biggie, who told his bodyguard to let him through. “He’s cool. I know him,” Big said. The two spoke briefly. Moments after leaving the party, Big was murdered.

Zip was at both crime scenes. With Foxy Brown at the MGM, when Pac got lit up. With Keyshawn Johnson on Fairfax Avenue, before Big wound up in the morgue.

These are facts you won’t find on Sean Combs’ Wikipedia Page.

Zip is mentioned nowhere. And he’s not the only omission. The almost Forbes billionaire photo-shops out every undesirable who helped pave his way to fame and fortune – no matter how important a role they played.

Unlike you and me, Diddy need not be defined by pesky inconvenient facts. In the tradition of a cheesy Bad Boy B.I.G. repackage, Diddy “re-mixes” his past to remove socially unacceptable figures as Uncle Zip, as well as recently convicted crack kingpin James Rosemond, AKA “Jimmy Henchman” – a long-time friend and business associate.

Diddy History deletes any reference to his former best friend, murdered felon Anthony “Wolf” Jones, and incarcerated elementary school buddies and business partners Corey “Buck” Jacobs and Kenneth “Big L” Kemp, as well as Black Mafia Family drug lord Demetrius “Big Meech” Flenory.

In Diddy History, many ex-friends, like many ex-Bad Boy artists, simply do not exist.

Zip was very much alive the day he called me 15 years ago, out of the blue, after I wrote his name in an article about B.I.G’s stalled LAPD murder probe. He didn’t like the piece, and let me know.

Zip and I first met in 2000, on a brisk winter evening in Manhattan. I offered to buy him a drink at The King Cole, my favorite bar. As I waited for him to arrive, my cell rang. Zip asked if I could meet him out front of the St. Regis instead.

The second I walked through the door, a tricked-out Escalade rolled up, with Zip behind the wheel, decked out in a plush full-length mink coat and matching pork-pie hat. The passenger window rolled down. Zip signaled for me to jump in.

We drove around Manhattan, talking through our misunderstandings, listening to music, discussing art, crime, and the quality of California hemp. Zip stopped at a liquor store, bought some provisions, and kept driving. An hour later, he dropped me back at the St. Regis. We shook hands, and off he drove, down 55th Street.

Over the next 10 years, I took the A Train up to Harlem every time I traveled East. One evening, at Zipcode, over scotch, Zip bitterly complained about how Puff had stabbed him in the back – for no apparent reason, just abandoned him, kicked him to the curb, as if Puff suddenly got Altzheimer’s. “Look, you come all the way from California. 3,000 miles. You make a point to stop by and see me,” Zip said. “Puffy has never once set foot in this club.

Zip’s health deteriorated swiftly. He spent years in and out of the hospital, battling cancer. Plus, he suffered incapacitating bouts of severe back pain, following a serious car accident, in which he had been rear-ended.

Last week, artists, cops and criminals across the nation were abuzz about Zip’s passing. One infamous, wise ex-colleague summed up the situation, succinctly:

“His secrets die with him.”

For the record, I sent Combs a dozen questions on Friday regarding Zip and their long-standing relationship, and the story I was writing. On Monday, Combs’ spokeswoman Keesha Johnson, vice president of DKC Public Relations, informed me that Sean was not available for comment.

Thanks for reading.

Chuck



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53 Responses to “Last Link (Zip) Connecting Puffy to Pac’s Assassination Passes Away”

  1. Shereezy |

    I checked out the site and he seems to have plenty of info on Diddy! I been waiting on him to be exposed! Yall do me a favor and not by this fool’s Ciroc!!

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    Kisha777 Reply:

    I sure will and I don’t even drink! But I will do my part…even if I see someone with a bottle or shot of CirCroc of Bull, I’ll knock it out of their hands. The severe a.s.s. whuppin or beating to a pulp will be well worth it! He’s a sneaky shade wearin (in the club/nighttime) “I’m looking at every dude’s ass in here but yall can’t see” abuser, murderer, conspirator and etc., and so on and so on… You know who his father is…I think we all know he was a liar and murderer from the very beginning! And just like Dusty, Pooty, P Shady…his father also goes by many names! Lucifer, Son of the morning etc. and so on…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    lmao @ knocking glasses of Ciroc out of people’s hands

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    Anonymous Reply:

    if your going to write a story please get the day of his death right!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Stop the hate, real men do real thing puff is not a worker unlike you he is a boss! Something you wouldn’t understand. When you step into the position of power it differ t than just having money. You want to boycot something? Boycot all the rich white who got away with the house market decline or Wall Street .

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  2. ANONYMOUSCHICK |

    DONE!! lol I CAN’T STAND “$HITTY”‘s (GRIMEY), “PUFFY” A$$!! LOL HE “SCREWS” EVERY-(BODY) OVER that HE CAN!! PUN INTENDED! ;) “NASTY D!CK TRICK!!”

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  3. TheMetamorphosisOfGipsy |

    WOW … this is so sad and no surprise, but PUFF whatever his name is will get his piece of karma-pie, no worries … the shit you dumb out there will eventually hit the fan and splatter you in the mouth …

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  4. I SAID... |

    I KNEW THEN LIKE I KNOW NOW P.DIDDY ALWAYS HAD A HAND IN BOTH MURDERS. WHY THE CRIME NOT SOLVED? MONEY!! LOOK WHO IS STILL STANDING, BUT NOT FOR LONG, I HOPE!!!
    RIP: PAC, BIGGIE, ZIP, LIGHTLY, AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO DIED THRU THIS MAN’S HANDS!!!
    GOD DONT LIKE UGLY!!

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    Galaxy Skywalker Reply:

    How Did Puffy Play A Role In Lightly’s Death?

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    Screwface Reply:

    Learn to read.

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    Screwface Reply:

    @i said not u galaxy.

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    crazychris Reply:

    how do you know puff had anything to do with chris lighty and zip being killed?

    puff had a motive to kill 2pac and suge and he had motive to kill biggie.

    somebody told me puff had them both whacked because he wanted faith evans for himself and pac violated faith so puff wanted 2pac dead and he wanted big dead cause he was sleeping with faith.

    did suge play a part well pac was shot in a drioveby and suge beat orlando up pac’s bodyguatrd said the whole thing looked liker a set up that duded just took that beatdown well you have to look at it this way pac and orlando could have went one on one but you had pac, suge and another duded kick orlando sorry can no man go against pac and suge’s 300 poiund ass beating you plus he had other gang members around them orlando could’nt do nothing but take an ass wooping.

    suge broke his probation and received 4 years for beating orlando so if he arranged that he’s really satanic.

    orlando was killed 2 years aFTER PAC SO IF HE WAS PAID THE MONEY DID’NT LAST HIM LONG.

    SUGE MADE MORE MONEY OFF PAC DEAD TRUE.

    ALL SUGE CARED ABOUIT WHEN HE WAS RELEASED WAS MORE PAC MUSIC HE DID’NT CARE ABOUT HIS OTHER ARTISTS WHO WAS ON DEATHROW AND COULD’NT LEAVE.

    FUNNY HOW J PRINCE AND RAP A LOT RELEASED NOTHING BUT PIMP C ALBUMS AFTER PIMP C PASSED.

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  5. c no |

    always follow the money….and gap toothed puff fa**y is The only one who profited from both deaths. I abhor the scumbag and have long felt that he was the “master mind” behind BIG and Tupac’s assassinations.

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    CRAZYCHRIS Reply:

    SUGE TRIED TO CONTROL THE STREETS TOO MUCH WARREN G WAS KICKED OFF DEATHROW AFTER SUGE’S GOONS WOOPED HIS ASS, BEFORE 2PAC DIED HE BEAT THE HELL OUT OF SAM SNEED AND LEFT HIM BRAIN DAMAGED.

    NONE OF THESE GUYS WERE SAINTS.

    PAC DIES AND THEN THE CRIPS AND BLOODS HAVE A GANG WAR AT LEAST 20 SOMETHING MEMBERS FROM BOTH SIDES END UP DEAD.

    SUGE SPENDS 4 YEARS IN JAIL AND WITHOUT HIM, DRE, PAC AND SNOOP DEATHROW RECORDS FALL AND NEVER RECOVER.

    PUFFY AND BAD BOY CONTINUES TO MAKE MILLIONS EVEN WITH BIG DEAD.

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    BringThaNoize Reply:

    Also, Reggie White Jr’s company- Wrightway Security, was Deathrow Security & Reggie’s father was a Compton Police Department officer assigned (headed up?) to the anti gang division- gang war cover ie collateral damage.

    2Pac’s car was boxed (on purpose by Suge?) in professional hit style not simple drive by style from one theory put out on that nite.

    Puffy is Clive Davis (Siva (destroyer) Devil C) boy as long as he makes Clive money he’s safe.

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  6. Kia |

    ZIP was a good guy i meet him once through a good friend, he will be missed

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  7. Anon1 |

    R.I.P. Zip. I know your brother and sister will keep things moving in your honor.

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  8. CONCERNED |

    Why bash a man who has passed on. All of these events make a great story but not good enough facts. Growing up in Harlem Diddy could know anyone. I admit he does have questionable pasts. But only God can judge him and Zip. qUESTION IS ARE U RIGHT??? NO! Let my friend rest in peace cause he didnt have it here with people like you speculating and publishing outlandish lies. BTW Zip loved Rose and he loved puffy. So find someone alive to bash so they can bash your ass back.

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    concerned Reply:

    who is rose? i know him for years , never met rose.

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  9. anonymous |

    Everyone dies around Diddy Devil Money. Blood sacrifices for all of his material wealth.

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  10. Anonymous |

    Rest In Peace Eric Von Zip
    Met Eric back in the day when Ballers were truly balling! Not like this counterfeit shyt we have now.
    I remember in the 80s, Arthurs Roundtable, Romper Room, The Rooftop, The Recovery Room and the gameroom Eric owned on 155th St in harlem.
    Eric Von Zip was definately a class act that paved the way for many.

    Like i said before, the old harlem is forever gone, but never 4gotten.

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  11. Jay |

    Well whoever chuck is obviously “chuck” you need to do some more research ZIP had a phantom along with a fleet of other cars depending on the day season and weather I PERSONALLY KNOW HIM you have the street cred rt but puffy didn’t have anything to do with ZIP yea he might have lent him a couple of dollars but believe me he did that for a lot of people a lot of Harlem will be struggling without him matter of fact from coast to coast will be and uemm yea he was mike tysons man who also helped him open ZIP code on 7th WHERE WAS MIKE is the question?????? furthermore he is Muslim only family was able to see him it was a closed casket so get ya facts rt when when you mention ZIP or HARLEM !!!

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    concerned Reply:

    no one helped him open zip code, and mike is a great man.

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  12. DBRAD |

    Back in 1996 while in college in Jersey, I went to ATL for the Freaknik and stayed in a hotel that housed MCRen and a bunch of Crips. I met them b/c they kept staring at my Red Sixers basketball jersey I was wearing. Long story short, they realized I was from East/Jersey and then we jus all vibed….red Jersey and all…there was a guy there named “Suge” NO LIE…he was a Crip and told me and I quote “Man we love that east coast sh*T…everytime Puffy come out LA he pay us to make sure he dont have no problems out there.” I was NOT in the music industry at that time….no reason for the guy to lie to me I was jus a college kid….this WHOLE story is believable to me….interesting…

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    Romeo Reply:

    I was there that year..met Daz in the underground..they had that mini riot with guys ripping off girls clothes during the outdoor concert ..crazy!!

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  13. JazzyPudding |

    Off topic. Damn. DBRad….Freaknik was the business..

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  14. Nick |

    Pac was murdered by some cops/government masked as a gang war. This dude who has been investigating Pac and his family for decades knows all about it and his story makes the most sense of what happened to him. I can’t remember his name but I saw the video of him explaining how Pac has been shot at multiple times in places like Atlanta and New York, before he was even famous and how his familys black panther connection made him a target like many of his other family members who were locked up or murdered, the story went deep and the story lines up factually.

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    Romeo Reply:

    Thinks it’s on netflix watched it too..also can’t remember the name.

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  15. Screwface |

    I tried to tell y’all that the whole blood/crip extortion thing is what took the east west beef to the boiling point. This cat knows exactly what he is talking about in this article.

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  16. NY G |

    In about 5yrs the truth will be out on puff greaseball ass he a hand on both big and Pac but for some reason suge is always implicated even tho it didn’t make sense for him to kill either

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  17. mlondon |

    I hate Puffy’s flaming down low disgusting using no good ass. I hereby beg any downlow or gay men on this site to (if you get the chance) seduce puffy film it and release that shit! I cannot wait for his downfall he is a truly evil man.

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    l Reply:

    mlondon, They already got the tape on him and will release it when they get ready.Sooner or later it will be out there.

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    keepitrealnotkeepinitreal Reply:

    When Clive dies, their (Puff & CD) tape will be released. Have heard from 3 -4 credible ppl it exists.

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    crazychris Reply:

    you’ll be waiting the real dirt might comer out after puff dies or goes broke.

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  18. CRAZYCHRIS |

    WENDY WILLIAMS SAID PUFF SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL LONG AGO.

    SUGE HAS A LEGACY OF DEATH LABEL DEATHROW PEOPLE WAS HURT, BEAT UP, AND KILLED.

    DRE HAS A SATANIC LEGACY FROM HIS FIRST GROUP THE WRECKING CRU, TO NWA AND THE LABEL WAS CALLED RUTHLESS AND DRE FOUNDED DEATHROW WITH SUGE.

    AFTER DRE LEFT DEATHROW AND AFTYER THE DEATHS OF EAZY, PAC AAND SUGE BEING LOCKED UP HIS NEW LABEL CALLED AFTERMATH.

    AFTERMATH OF WHAT ALL THE GANGSTER MADNESS HE HELPED CREATE DRE MAY BE A FAKE GANGHSTER BUT HE CREATED A BAD LEGACY AND THEN WHEN IT GOT TO REAL DRE DECIDED TO QUIT BEING HARD.

    SNOOP HAS A SATANIC LEGACY FROM DEATHROW, TO NO LIMIT TO HIS OWN LABEL.

    EAZY, DRE, SUGE, PAC, PUFF, BIG AND SNOOP ALL PLAYED WITH THE DEVIL AND ALL SPREADED THE SEX, DRUGS, DEATH AGENDA.

    SNOOP STILL PERFORMS AND PUFF.

    DRE SITS IN THE BACKGROUND AND HAS OTHER ARTISTS CONTINUE THE AGENDA HE CREATED LIKE THE GAME, 50 CENT, G UNIT, EMINEM AND D12.

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    BringThaNoize Reply:

    Eazy E & Ruthless records were very luciferic the Rapper CPO even said it in his lyrics on Ballad of a Menace:

    ‘But I’m not a doctor or lawyer I wasn’t made to be
    Ever luciferic because I get paid to be’

    And Bone Thugs was Ouija boarded out.

    Jerry ‘HELL’er……

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    crazychris Reply:

    EAZY PLAYED WITH THE DEVIL TOO MUCH.

    TWEEDY BIRD LOC MADE DISS SONGS ABOUT EAZY IN 93-94 DISSING HIM SAYING EAZY HAD AIDS OR HE’S GONNA DIE FROM AIDS EAZY JUST SIGNED FEMALE RAP GROUP HWA AND TWEEDY DISSED THEM ALL SAYING HWA STOOD FOR HOOKERS WITH AIDS.

    EAZY ADMITTED HE NEVER WORE A CONDOMN.

    DJ YELLA SAID EAZY ONCE BANGED 10 GIRLS WHILE ON TOUR.

    PEOPLE WHO KNEW EAZY ALL ADMITTED HE WOULD PHUKK ANYTHING WIOTH A SKIRT ON.

    THERE’S A MC REN TERACK CALLED 24 HOURS TO LIVE WHERE EAZY SAID HE’S DYING ANYWAY YES RELEASED AFTER HIS DEATH.

    EAZY FIRES HELLER AND HELLER WANTED PAYBACK.

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  19. MissK |

    all very interesting comments..keep them coming..’m enjoying reading this!

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  20. Rip |

    This DIDDY,PUFFY, PUFF DADDY….let’s just call him “ALIAS”. He has a lot of luck ( or is it money) how else do you come out of all these situations untouched? Physically anyway I’m pretty sure he’s jacked up mentally. I DO KNOW THAT HE’S A USER. He USES drugs, he uses alcohol and most importantly he USES people. Zip said “ALIAS” forgot about him. I disagree. He used Zip for what he can get out of him then once things calmed down he distance himself so as to not be associated with him. It’s what most cowardly sell outs do once they make a certain amount of money. It’s like the once street corner prostitute that marries the NBA player..she doesn’t wanna REMEMBER her ex pimp Don Juan…or the ex nickle and dime drug dealer who becomes a wealthy rapper and basketball mascot…he doesn’t want to REMEMBER Damon Dash. Same thing. It’s just USING PEOPLE WHO CAN DO FOR YOU NOW AND NOT YESTERDAY. That’s all “ALIAS” or Diddy is about.

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    crazychris Reply:

    ICEBERG SLIM ONCE WROTE THAT HE HELPED A YOUNG BLACK FEMALE IN CHICAGO OUT A LOBNG TIME AGO SAVED HER LIFE REALLY BUT WHEN SHE GOT FAMOUS AND STARTED HANGING AROUND WHITES AND MARRIED A WHITE GUY SHE DID’NT WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH BLACKS OR BEING BLACK ANYMORE.

    THE ONLY 2 WOMEN I CAN THINK OF WHO WERE MAKING SONGS IN THE 70′S AND from chicago were chaka khan and minnie riperton both made songs, and both dated outside their race.

    minnie died of breast cancer at age 31 who benefitted her husband richared rudolph who cowrote half her songs.

    on the old adventures in paradise cover you can see minnie sitting next to a lion around this time she discoverde she had brewast cancer plus the lion attacked her.

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  21. crazychris |

    PUFF AIN’T NO DIFFERENT THAN BERRY GORDY.

    BERRY GORDY WAS IN WITH THE MAFIA AND SOME SAY HE HAD PAUL WILLIAMS AND FLO BALLARD WHACKED OFF.

    JAMES BROWN WAS A MANIAC WHO TREATED HIS ARTISTS AND BAND MEMBERS LIKE CRAP ALSO.

    JB WAS KNOWN TO PULL PISTOLS ON HIS MEMBERS AND JB WAS A WOMAN BEATER EVERY WIFE AND GIRLFRIEND JB HAD WAS BEAT DOWN.

    MICHAEL JACKSON USED PEOPLE.

    LIKE SLASH SAID THE MUSIC INDUSTRY USES EVERYBODY.

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  22. zinagurl |

    Music Industry is a dirty busins PERIOD!!!! You have to sell your soul to the devil.

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  23. sheknows yup |

    Let My Uncle ZIP rest in Peace PLEASE Thank You

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  24. Bigsim |

    Greg kading is legit he knows what hes talking about , keffe d(baby lanes uncle) was the “shot-caller” that dudes talking about ..the southside crips didnt go to vegas to kill pac&suge they went strictly for the tyson fight, partying etc … Soon as deathrow beat baby lane up it was on from there …zip is/was an accesory to pacs murder simple- the crips didnt have no guns out there zip gave keffe d a glock 40 and he knew about puff wanting pac&suge dead for a mill hence he said” 2stones in 1 kill” meanin revenge for mgm fight&puffs $ ,zip never forwarded the money to the southside crips, the only shame about zip been dead is that he never got a chance to confirm puffs involoment in tupac shakurs murder now hes dead theres only 1 other person (apart from keffe d) that can come forward which is terrance brown(white cadalic driiver)……

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  25. Staralei |

    Maybe am wrong but 2pac and biggie would have been walking in jay-z and puff cream
    Spaces right now if they didn’t die all the rumors about the illuminatii and shut u wouldn’t be surprised that puff cream and jayz used them too as sacrifices bc look at where they are now and still they only care about money and themselves

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  28. Chantae |

    @Michael
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  29. Chantae |

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  31. I choose Love over Evil |

    Illuminati is just satan, lucifer, and his demons up to their old tricks again. Different name same game!

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  32. ghost |

    not everything is dead there a voices from the grave not everything is a secret there a voices from the grave. Puff is the real snitch and why bmf and meech incarcerated. On nov 10 wolf returned from fl having spent week with sean for bday celebration. the fight between meech and wolf was not about a girl and wolf did not lay low at the club waiting 3 hrs for meech, he left. Puff called him and girdy to take care of the business they ended up getting killed.
    11/11/2003. puff tip off feds concerning bmf, texas f fedsoute2004 route

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